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		<title>By: Suzanne Casamento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Casamento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Carrie. Very lucky to have you too. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with Carrie. Very lucky to have you too. <img src='http://ktliterary.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodi Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts, Kate. I&#039;ve been trying to keep up with the posts and comments on this issue and it&#039;s been both fascinating and frustrating.  
 
Agents and authors want to sell books, pay the bills, and have successful careers, but sometimes it seems like both parties are glaring at each other from opposing camps, like they don&#039;t believe the other is *actually* on their side. 
 
For the most part, though, I think most authors are very aware their agents aren&#039;t making money off them until they sell -- and they *want* to sell and make their agents rich. (I know I do.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts, Kate. I&#39;ve been trying to keep up with the posts and comments on this issue and it&#39;s been both fascinating and frustrating. </p>
<p>Agents and authors want to sell books, pay the bills, and have successful careers, but sometimes it seems like both parties are glaring at each other from opposing camps, like they don&#39;t believe the other is *actually* on their side.</p>
<p>For the most part, though, I think most authors are very aware their agents aren&#39;t making money off them until they sell &#8212; and they *want* to sell and make their agents rich. (I know I do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that, Carrie! </description>
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		<title>By: Carrie Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me = lucky to have you. 
 
That&#039;s all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me = lucky to have you.</p>
<p>That&#39;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Quin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 04:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that agents will push harder and work better if they get a percentage of the author&#039;s royalties.  They&#039;ll be likely to push the advance and such.  I think many wouldn&#039;t put so much effort into it if they were paid by the hour. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that agents will push harder and work better if they get a percentage of the author&#39;s royalties.  They&#39;ll be likely to push the advance and such.  I think many wouldn&#39;t put so much effort into it if they were paid by the hour.</p>
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		<title>By: illukar</title>
		<link>http://ktliterary.com/2010/06/about-agentpay/comment-page-1/#comment-7794</link>
		<dc:creator>illukar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a billable hours model, I can see three things happening: 
 
- Author pays agent (varying) amounts of cash and never sells a book. 
- Agent earns more from sold books than author does. 
- Authors without the ability to pay agents up-front are locked out of most publishers altogether. 
 
The whole current system is very flawed, but unfortunately I&#039;ve yet to hear a solution which betters it.  However, if a solution can be found where an author is paid for, an agent would then also be paid more.  And if publishing were more profitable, then authors would be paid more. 
 
Any ideas on how to make publishing more profitable? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a billable hours model, I can see three things happening:</p>
<p>- Author pays agent (varying) amounts of cash and never sells a book.</p>
<p>- Agent earns more from sold books than author does.</p>
<p>- Authors without the ability to pay agents up-front are locked out of most publishers altogether.</p>
<p>The whole current system is very flawed, but unfortunately I&#39;ve yet to hear a solution which betters it.  However, if a solution can be found where an author is paid for, an agent would then also be paid more.  And if publishing were more profitable, then authors would be paid more.</p>
<p>Any ideas on how to make publishing more profitable?</p>
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		<title>By: Krista V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyndy Aleo makes a great point - if agents billed like lawyers do, that would really change the nature of the relationship. Authors would want to spend as little time as possible talking to their agents, and that would only lead to bigger problems down the road. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyndy Aleo makes a great point &#8211; if agents billed like lawyers do, that would really change the nature of the relationship. Authors would want to spend as little time as possible talking to their agents, and that would only lead to bigger problems down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: AudryT</title>
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		<dc:creator>AudryT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about looking for additional ways to make more $ off of your current clients&#039; existing work?  The money doesn&#039;t have to come just from traditional publishing.  Being in Hollywood, I never see a book as just a book.  It&#039;s I.P. -- no matter how small or off-beat or mainstream or crazy it might be, an I.P. has the potential be entertaining and profitable in myriad forms, and an agent is perfectly situation to make those forms happen. 
 
I have a friend whose comic was put out in standard floppy comic format (individual thirty-page issues).  It didn&#039;t garner the interest of traditional comic fans.  I told him, &quot;Because of the genre and style of your story, there is potentially a huge market for it online in webcomic-savvy teens and adults.&quot;  He built a site, shared it online for free, and collected enough ad revenue to pay the bills for his family of four.  If I had been an agent giving him that advice, it would have been fair of me, I think, to get a small % of the ad sales, especially if I helped to get the site going.  (In this case, I wasn&#039;t an agent and I didn&#039;t want anything -- he&#039;s a friend!) 
 
While, as an agent, you wouldn&#039;t make suggestions like &quot;put it online for free&quot; for a book you&#039;d already sold the print rights for, it&#039;s possible you could set yourself up to help the author generate income from creative variations on their work other than a book, generic ebook or movie.  Some ideas you might not have time to handle (like getting a Massive Multi-player Online game company to license the I.P.), but there are millions of creative media formats being explored on the internet, and if you nurture the right connections, you and your author might be able to benefit from them without having to write/shepherd more new books for the same old percentage. 
 
Let me give a Daphne-specific example. ^_^  Let&#039;s say you have a client who&#039;s written a book called, say, THE SHERLOCK HOLMES HANDBOOK.  This Handbook could, conceivably, make a great interactive program for iPhone/iPad, which could be used as a portable reference for when a reader accidentally happen upon an appalling murder in a dark alley, or just to click on links embedded in the app that direct the reader to awsum-possum stores where they can buy Holmes-themed gadgetry, clothes, etc.  Or it could be a highly addictive trivia game about Holmsian lore covered in the book. 
 
A publisher MIGHT think of such ideas, but let&#039;s say in this case, the publisher is very busy just getting printed book out, so making interactive apps is not their big priority -- and you can&#039;t make the app, either, because you&#039;re not a programmer.   
 
What you CAN do is find an app-building company that wants to license the I.P. for an app, or you can outsource the design &amp; coding of your own idea for an app to a company that builds apps as work-for-hire (or for their share of the profits via royalties).  They do all the grunt work, and your client ends up the primary owner of an app that could sell like zombiecakes on the iPhone and bring in money for everyone involved.   
 
And you won&#039;t be out of much time if it doesn&#039;t. (Certainly not as much time as it took to flog and sell the original book!) 
 
Other forms of media are a crap shoot just like a book is, but the more crap shoots you have out there for one I.P., the more likely it becomes that one of them will turn up the right roll of the dice for a little extra cha-ching! 
 
Can you tell I&#039;ve been thinking about this a lot lately? ^_^ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about looking for additional ways to make more $ off of your current clients&#39; existing work?  The money doesn&#39;t have to come just from traditional publishing.  Being in Hollywood, I never see a book as just a book.  It&#39;s I.P. &#8212; no matter how small or off-beat or mainstream or crazy it might be, an I.P. has the potential be entertaining and profitable in myriad forms, and an agent is perfectly situation to make those forms happen.</p>
<p>I have a friend whose comic was put out in standard floppy comic format (individual thirty-page issues).  It didn&#39;t garner the interest of traditional comic fans.  I told him, &quot;Because of the genre and style of your story, there is potentially a huge market for it online in webcomic-savvy teens and adults.&quot;  He built a site, shared it online for free, and collected enough ad revenue to pay the bills for his family of four.  If I had been an agent giving him that advice, it would have been fair of me, I think, to get a small % of the ad sales, especially if I helped to get the site going.  (In this case, I wasn&#39;t an agent and I didn&#39;t want anything &#8212; he&#39;s a friend!)</p>
<p>While, as an agent, you wouldn&#39;t make suggestions like &quot;put it online for free&quot; for a book you&#39;d already sold the print rights for, it&#39;s possible you could set yourself up to help the author generate income from creative variations on their work other than a book, generic ebook or movie.  Some ideas you might not have time to handle (like getting a Massive Multi-player Online game company to license the I.P.), but there are millions of creative media formats being explored on the internet, and if you nurture the right connections, you and your author might be able to benefit from them without having to write/shepherd more new books for the same old percentage.</p>
<p>Let me give a Daphne-specific example. ^_^  Let&#39;s say you have a client who&#39;s written a book called, say, THE SHERLOCK HOLMES HANDBOOK.  This Handbook could, conceivably, make a great interactive program for iPhone/iPad, which could be used as a portable reference for when a reader accidentally happen upon an appalling murder in a dark alley, or just to click on links embedded in the app that direct the reader to awsum-possum stores where they can buy Holmes-themed gadgetry, clothes, etc.  Or it could be a highly addictive trivia game about Holmsian lore covered in the book.</p>
<p>A publisher MIGHT think of such ideas, but let&#39;s say in this case, the publisher is very busy just getting printed book out, so making interactive apps is not their big priority &#8212; and you can&#39;t make the app, either, because you&#39;re not a programmer.  </p>
<p>What you CAN do is find an app-building company that wants to license the I.P. for an app, or you can outsource the design &amp; coding of your own idea for an app to a company that builds apps as work-for-hire (or for their share of the profits via royalties).  They do all the grunt work, and your client ends up the primary owner of an app that could sell like zombiecakes on the iPhone and bring in money for everyone involved.  </p>
<p>And you won&#39;t be out of much time if it doesn&#39;t. (Certainly not as much time as it took to flog and sell the original book!)</p>
<p>Other forms of media are a crap shoot just like a book is, but the more crap shoots you have out there for one I.P., the more likely it becomes that one of them will turn up the right roll of the dice for a little extra cha-ching!</p>
<p>Can you tell I&#39;ve been thinking about this a lot lately? ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Rissa Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rissa Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following this discussion on Twitter and on several blogs.  
 
I can see an agent charging for some things. Like for example, I would pay for a critique of my manuscript (depending on the cost of course). But when it comes to selling my book, commission only.  
 
When it comes to sales, commission is one of the best ways to know your agent - real estate, literary etc. will work hard to make the sale. Plus, it would be an accounting nightmare trying to figure out the billing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following this discussion on Twitter and on several blogs. </p>
<p>I can see an agent charging for some things. Like for example, I would pay for a critique of my manuscript (depending on the cost of course). But when it comes to selling my book, commission only. </p>
<p>When it comes to sales, commission is one of the best ways to know your agent &#8211; real estate, literary etc. will work hard to make the sale. Plus, it would be an accounting nightmare trying to figure out the billing.</p>
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		<title>By: CFD Trade</title>
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		<dc:creator>CFD Trade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are struggling authors who are into writing for the sake of earning.  If they have not published yet and have to pay an agent per hour...I could just imagine how authors&#039; dreams can crumble before their very own eyes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are struggling authors who are into writing for the sake of earning.  If they have not published yet and have to pay an agent per hour&#8230;I could just imagine how authors&#39; dreams can crumble before their very own eyes.</p>
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